GBMINI stereo – Tweeter screw ups found

Back from visiting Tweeter again today.
Incredibly the installer discovered that he had crossed the feeds to two of the four speakers, so that half the sound was out of phase which is a guaranteed way to destroy the bass! I cannot believe that he made such a basic mistake and did not catch it. It appears that there was just about zero testing of the system after the install was complete.

Unfortunately I still have an engine noise through the speakers – a whistle related to engine revs, loudest around 2500-3000rpm. With the head unit volume at zero, the noise remains (it is present even when the cables from the head unit to the amp are disconnected).
Tweeter were unable to eliminate the noise. They say they contacted Boston Acoustics who claim no knowledge of similar problems.
So I am currently stuck with noise from perhaps a bad installation or perhaps a bad amp; and no-one is doing anything to fix it. I feel some strong letters coming on …

I have had some incredible advice from “Tacotim” which has helped me to understand how the “System Q” (tone) adjustment controls in the head unit work to control the sound.
Now that I have properly wired speakers, I am getting reasonable sound levels – hard to say if it is actually an improvement over the Harmon Kardon designed factory system in the car previously … I hope to be able to compare my car with a stock HK equipped car over the next few weeks (must be time for another visit to MINI Peabody.

My impression of the Harmon Kardon equipped MINI has gone up dramatically in the last week – now that it is no longer in my car. I would recommend the system to people who want amazing clarity in their car, but don’t need super loud volume and don’t mind the front sound stage setup.
Currently the $550 HK upgrade compares very variably with the $1500+ spent on my car.

GBMINI stereo – engine noise experiments

Also … some more on the stereo debacle!
I experimented this afternoon with grounding the Kenwood head unit at the Boston Acoustics amp instead of using the car wiring harness, to see if the engine whine in the speakers was due to a ground loop. But there was no improvement.
Also, disconnecting the RCA outputs at the head unit had no effect.
So it seems like the amp is picking up noise from the supply or the RCA cables – more testing needed.

The sound remains much worse than I remember the Harmon Kardon system being (only last week!)
There is significantly less bass, and the mid range is “muddy” so that vocals are indistinct.
Difficult to be more specific – but I am hoping for better understanding with assistance from “TacoTim” (on MCOL.

I plan to return to Tweeter tomorrow to see if they can eliminate the engine whine and improve any of the sound quality. But I am really extremely unimpressed with them at the moment … I was led to believe that they knew what they were doing, but apparently that is not true.

MINIsOnTop 2003 – the ultimate MINI event!

My! What a weekend MINIsOnTop [MOT2003] was!

The awful downside is the audio destruction done to my MINI by Tweeter – I don’t yet know if there is something they did wrong that can be improved, or if the Harmon Kardon factory stereo is just perfect for the MINI. But currently GBMINI has much less bass than before, and it is often hard to distinguish the vocals. The whole stereo thing is just a stomach-churning nightmare at the moment!
On the great excellent amazing stunning side, it was MINIs On Top this weekend!
Friday afternoon Margaret & I packed and drove north into New Hampshire to North Woodstock, where we stayed at the Three Rivers House; a characterful place but pricey and annoying downsides like half hour wait for hot water in the tub, and ultra-slow draining sink!
Late Friday night we heard what sounded like another MINI pulling in – too dark to see, but in the morning my hearing was confirmed (the red MINI is owned by Keith Winslow).

After breakfast we headed to Loon Mountain; we were supposed to meet from about 11am but we got there around 10 and there were many others ahead of us; more and more MINIs arrived, to a total of over 70! Steve Barnatt, who did an incredible job organizing the event over the last few months, handed out the T-shirts and numbered every MINI.

We set off along the Kancamagus Highway shortly after midday. The original plan was to stop at a scenic overlook and have lunch, but I guess we were having too much fun driving! I pulled over at one parking area to take pictures of the cars passing – sorry to have confused a number of MINIs into pulling over with me! Eventually we all turned off onto Bear Notch Road and stopped at the first overlook. There was just about enough room for everyone to fit!

After lunch we continued on Bear Notch Road, then dispersed for the afternoon. We checked in to the Royalty Inn (where 10-15 other MINIs were also checked in) and explored the trinket and craft stores in Gorham.
Everyone headed to the Mount Washington Auto Road start, for more conversation and some great BBQ. Various prizes were handed out (cleanest & dirtiest MINI, longest journey – over 700 miles from Cleveland, etc) then John Secco read out an official proclamation from the New Hampshire Governor declaring June 21, 2003 “MINI Cooper Day”!


Finally the auto road drive began. Everyone lined up at the base; we were led up the road by an official vehicle, which made sure that no-one took any corner too fast and slid off the mountain! First and second gear was the order of the day, and everyone made it to the top – although there were a few hot engines.

We all gathered on the viewing area at the very top of Mount Washington, and watched the sunset – a little cool and windy – but after such amazing weather all day no-one was complaining!

You can find many more pictures on the MINI2 thread.

Thanks to everyone for an amazing weekend … I miss you all!