Key differences #2 (pros and cons of an R56)

After a week driving R56 GBMINI#5, here are some thoughts, and comparisons with GPMINI.
A few important points first: my list tends to focus on the less positive aspects of the R56! Doesn’t mean I don’t like it – but many people have already written at length that the R56 is wonderful. Also, remember that my comparison is against GPMINI, arguably the best R53 out there and with an amazing stereo system 🙂

Oh – a quick “aside” too …
Reminder: GBMINI#5 is “pre-owned” (the previous owner traded it for a GP!) He had spec’ed it well, with the Premium, Cold Weather and Sport packages – so it has auto a/c, sunroof, heated seats, Xenon headlights – he also spec’ed an LSD, dimming rearview mirror, and the navigation system, and he had the iPod adaptor added to it. Mileage was only 3,700, and MINI of Peabody added the MINI Next (CPO) extended warranty to it.
Which brings me to my “aside”: On an in-warranty car, the MINI Next warranty extends the factory warranty by two years to a maximum 100,000 miles. It is NOT an extension of the cars original warranty – for example you won’t be covered it bits of trim fall off, that sort of thing. But what really surprised me is that is DOES NOT cover the cars audio systems! That could be a big deal – especially on a car like this one with the integrated NAV system.
MINI Next are reasonably honest about it: you can read the brochure online and see it listed under accessories in “What’s Left For You”; it still surprised me though.
Anyway, on to the interesting stuff 🙂
First … have you read people online mentioning how the redesigned aerodynamics help to keep the back of the R56 clean? Well:

This is one night, 25 miles of driving in slush/rain. Of course, there’s a marked improvement over GPMINI because the rear wiper can clean off the crud 😉

Also poor weather related, I did notice that when the front wipers are in use, less water is pushed on to the side window of the drivers door. I think it’s because the A-pillar trim piece fits less flat, but it’s a good improvement.

Steering wheel control stalks take a little getting used to, but they’re not as bad as I had imagined. R56 indicator and wiper stalks don’t click to their “on” positions, you push them to indicate a selection, and they return to the center.
On the indicators, this really isn’t much of an issue. You click up to turn and they self-cancel. If you need to manually cancel, you push slightly in the other direction. Just like you do on “normal” stalks – except the stalk is always in the neutral position when you reach for it.
The R56 also has a feature where a quick touch of the indicators will do three flashes instead of just one. Initially I turned this off, but quickly decided it was quite a nice feature and turned it on again! It’s useful when lane changing to provide a warning for other drivers (except around Boston, where there’s no point doing it!)

I also noticed that the lighting control has changed slightly – if you exit the car with the lights left turned on, they will fully turn off and there is no “bell” to warn you. Not sure how you leave the parking lights on, if you wish to (maybe I should read the manual!)

The wiper stalk is a bit more strange. You push up once and get intermittent wipers, a second push gives slow and a third push gives fast. To cancel, you now have to push down one, two or three times, rather than the more logical push-down-all-the-way-to-neutral that you’d do in GPMINI.
Thankfully, when the wipers are off, a push down gives the expected single wipe.
I’ve always cursed auto a/c – all based on my experience back in 2002 with GBMINI#1 which would determinedly blow freezing cold air at me in the winter mornings, not bothering to wait for the engine to heat up before trying to warm me. It would blow noisy, and often not where I wanted it. I used to adjust the “auto” controls so often, I’ve always ordered manual controls since then.
The R56 auto a/c is massively improved – and I like it 🙂
It doesn’t blow till the engine is warm enough to provide heat. It doesn’t blow as noisily as GPMINI (even when blowing hard). It seems to successfully warm me up without my needing to adjust controls excessively – my only habit so far is to select the “face” direction in the morning when it starts blowing warm, to warm my hands (if I’m not wearing gloves); and very nicely, when I de-select “face”, it reverts to full auto control.
Of course, I have turned the a/c off! It’s going to be a long time before I test that feature 😉

Talking of heat, the heated seats are a little different: they now have three settings. Curiously though, my experience so far is that the three settings are too hot, too hot and too hot!
The R56 seats themselves, are much improved over those of GPMINI (and GPMINIs seats in turn are better than those I had in GBMINI#2); the R56 seats are firmer, yet more comfortable … more supportive I suppose. Of course different shaped people will probably have different opinions (it’ll be interesting to see what Margaret thinks of them).
And now, some thoughts on performance – I bet many readers wanted this information first! But GBMINI#5 was supposed to be a more refined (quieter, more comfortable) ride, so performance was less high on my agenda.
Off the line, I’d say the R56 would definitely beat GPMINI! There really is a lot of torque low down in the rev range … but at higher speeds GPMINI is much better (when passing cars on the highway, for example).
What really surprised me was how noisy the R56 is! At higher revs (4000+) it’s very noisy and sounds unrefined; in no way is the sound as good as GPMINI, there’s no sweet supercharger whine, the engine and exhaust sounds simply noisy with no pleasureable note to it. I don’t know if GPMINI is actually quieter, or if it’s simply that GPMINI makes nicer noises – whatever, GBMINI#5 is not pleasant to listen to when you’re driving hard.

As for the ride, it’s very similar. On a jarring bump or pothole, the R56 is much more comfortable – I often have to check GPMINIs wheels after hitting a pothole, because it sounds like the car must have been damaged! On regular bumpy roads, however, both cars feel very similar, and I have as much confidence taking corners quickly in either car.
Side note: GPMINI has always lost traction on corners due to the stock 18″ runflats; possibly better tires in the spring will change this comparison.

One other thing about performance: it seems that torque steer is much worse in the R56! I do notice torque steer with GPMINI, under very hard acceleration you feel the steering wheel pulling a little – but on the R56 under medium-to-hard acceleration you’ll get sudden unexpected torque steer that pulls away much more, it’s much less predictable than in GPMINI, and worse when it happens.
Finally, a re-visit about the R56 “key”. It’s quite a step backwards, I think.
In GPMINI, I get in the car, push the clutch in while inserting and turning the key – and we go! It’s really one fluid motion to insert the key and start the engine, and it feels very natural. Similarly when parked, you turn the key and pull it out in a single motion. It’s how cars work.
Now with the R56: you get in the car, push the clutch, push the key in to the hole in the dash (of course you have to make sure it’s the right way up, it’s not ambidextrous like a traditional key), then you move your fingers over to the START button and push. I know the button is near the hole, but it’s still two separate actions.
Worse still when you want to stop – you push the button to stop the engine, then you push the key to un-latch it, and finally you pull it out of the hole.

Something else about the key – it’s hard to use in the dark! MINIs previous keys have buttons that are shaped differently for the lock and unlock functions; it’s easy to feel the button you want without seeing it. On the R56 “key”, the buttons are all the same shape. You have to feel for where your finger is in relation to the key – that is, you basically feel where the ring clip is on the other side, then to unlock you feel straight across the key from the ring clip, and press; to lock, you feel across the key and then sort of left a bit, and press.
I think the whole key design has been biased in favour of owners having to buy the convenience opening package, because without it, the key is anything but convenient!

In future exciting installments, I’ll waffle about the R56 stereo, Sirius satellite radio, iPod control and navigation – believe me, they’re not pretty!

21 thoughts on “Key differences #2 (pros and cons of an R56)

  1. Ian,
    I agree on the low end acceleration. When I launch the wifes R56 HARD and with the sport swith on (very important, otherwise it feels like there is no LSD) the R56 REALLY pulls on the low end. First thought is wow, this is harder than the GP. But as you hit 4500 it starts to get noisy and drop off quickly!. It is at that point that the GP eats the R56 lunch. From 4500 to 7000 the GP feels like it is a rocket and sounds SOOOOOOO sweet!!!!

  2. Ian, I didn’t follow this statement:

    “I think the whole key design has been biased in favour of owners having to but the convenience opening package, because without it, the key is anything but convenient!”

    Other than that, that was a refreshing review by a man who has owned them all. I’m thinking it’s gonna be great when you get the Clubman! 😉

    Brent got some deals on Long Sleeved GP shirts coming up next week at Twisty.

  3. You get used to the key. After a couple of months, the start / stop stuff becomes second nature, as does the lock / unlock remote buttons.

  4. With the convenience pack, Robert, there are receivers all around the car that pick up the key transmitter while it’s still in your pocket … you press a small button on the door handle to unlock the car, get in, and press START.
    Similarly, you press STOP, get out, and touch the button to lock the car.
    Margarets BMW has it and it works well – don’t need to find the key, can’t lock it in the car (or boot), nice and “convenient” 😉

    Oh – retrofitting it, Brian, would surely be crazy expensive due to needing to install receivers all over the car!

  5. Yes. Simply add the $1500 convenience package to your R56 (or Clubman) which gives other features … or add the $500 comfort access system!

  6. The key is inconvenient? Really, this just sounds preposterous. I could easily sit here and argue that all that wrist twisting took so much more time and effort than pressing the start button with one of my available digits. I mean its not like you have to reach back into your pocket to get your finger. But whatever. I’ll tell you what’s convenient. Not having a key that eventually pokes holes in my trouser pockets. That’s convenient. Not keeping my car key in a car wallet anymore because of said holes, and not having to get the key out of a key wallet each time I drive. That’s convenient.

    I hope you can get a fair turn to teach the R56 some new tricks. For me, I’d like to see you teach the two unused steering wheel buttons into a mute button, and an audio source button. Then you could really control the radio from the wheel.

  7. lavardera – it sounds like you have the convenience open package; of course that would be more convenient than the pre’07 keys.

  8. LAVA, I think the dialog, at least for me, is more about “if ya gonna offer this option” make it work or why bother! It’s not that it’s too hard to do these things but if the “Better” idea is the same as the old idea, or involves more steps what’s the point.

    As far as the hole in the pants, HUH (???). In all my 45 years of driving I have never worn a hole in my pants with a car key. So maybe a look at your clothing choices would be in order? LOL 😉

    Yes a no-biased account of the new MINi is refreshing, for sure. ;-0

  9. I think the R53 just lends itself to be a more familiar way of starting a car. There are a lot of other cars out there with a push button start. Even though I haven’t approached a R56 with a key, put the key in the “ignition” and pressed the start button, it just sounds like a lot more work than just taking the same key out of your pocket and unlocking the doors and getting in and starting the car.

    Ian- Do you need to step on the clutch while you press the “start” button?

    I will stay when I test drove the R56 Cooper S that MOP had, it was VERY confusing to turn the car off… just doesn’t seem logical for a car to have a start “button”. My .02 cents…

  10. No, I don’t have the convenience package. I get the fob out each time, but because its a friendly shape it lives loose in my pocket. MrMstd – nothing wrong with my pants. Key wallets were not invented for me, its an old problem.

    Another issue that Ian did not touch on is that the R56 start is automated. You push the button and the car starts itself. You don’t hold the button to keep the starter cranking the way you must hold the key turned in an R50/53 in order to keep the starter engaged. In fact if you hit the starter button before you have the clutch all the way down the R56 will go ahead and start once the clutch hits bottom even though your finger has left the button already. I’m sure the automated start won’t be “visceral” for some – LOL – but if your counting convenience points, it is more convenient.

  11. My first Mini was a 1962 Austin. To start it, you put the key in the ignition switch on the dash. Then you pressed the starter button, which was on the floor between the front seats. “Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.”

  12. My wife has an Austin Mini, got it 2 months ago. I used it for the first time last night to go to work as my van is in for service. I was a bit disorientated knowing which buttons to push for windows, etc. Not familiar with the car. I got to work for a late night shift. I parked in the loading dock so I could look out the warehouse door to check up on it hourly for vandalism. When I finished work at 4 am, I went out to get in the car. The drivers side window was open, then I saw the passenger window open, then I saw the sun roof open. All fully open. What the heck? When I went in to work, I specifically double checked that I pressed the lock button on the key device (fob ?). The car lights flashed and a beep so I thought I locked it. The key was in my pocket in my jacket which I was not wearing. But I had a lot of stuff in the jacket pocket. I can’t remember if I shuffled through my pocket. I di a google search on Autin Mini windows problem and came across a couple of posts of mysterious windows and sunroof openings. It seems like there is a button to press and hold to open all for convenience. Is this true? Is it defective? Or did I press it with junk in my pocket. The car was 20-25 feet outside through a concrete block wall. A bit far, no? I am concerned because (1) if it is a defect it needs to fixed (2) if this is a normal feature and it is possible to leave it all open by pushing the convenience button, then we can never really trust that it closed up and locked when we park it anywhere. I probably did something stupid operationally, but it worries me because if I can do it the first time I use the car then anyone can repeat the sequence to repeat the problem. I will call up the dealer too but I find that there are smarter people on the internet. Auto dealers are like politicians, they just recite the party line and don’t really help. I am in Vancouver area, BC Canada.

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